Smoke:
Do you have some time to answer some questions for a blog post? They may or may not be used, but with the topic I am writing about I figured it would be
worth a shot to at least ask.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:47:16 PM
lori duncan:
sure, what’s up
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:48:12 PM
Smoke:
It is up to you if you want to talk about it but it involves the problems on the ag.net forums and Walter.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:48:43 PM
lori duncan:
oh god not him, i thought he was banned from there
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:49:24 PM
Smoke:
As far as I know he is, but that is what I wanted to talk about.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:49:40 PM
lori duncan:
ok, are you fine with just text chatting
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:50:21 PM
Smoke:
yes
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:50:27 PM
lori duncan:
ok
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:50:55 PM
Smoke:
I’ve been reading over a lot of the old posts for research on my next blog post, and I’ve noticed a bunch of things I want to write more indepth about.
One was this situation.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:51:02 PM
Edited, Smoke:
According to the timeline walter got banned after what he was accused of doing on STW, then by evidence that Dark said he got from others on the forum via
what I assume is private messages.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:51:33 PM Edited by Smoke at Friday, October 12, 2018 10:51:47 PM
lori duncan:
that’s right, but Sam took walter’s side because he was friends with walter, and walter was an admin
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:52:25 PM
Smoke:
Then after it calmed down Sam posted the chat logs you sent him and they didn’t match with what originally happened. I was hoping to get a clear story of
it all
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:52:33 PM
Smoke:
no sam wasn’t friends with walter at the time actually,a nd still isn’t to this day.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:52:49 PM
Smoke:
Dark said you and him were friends, so I gather you and him have some sort of outside the forums friendship?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:53:26 PM
lori duncan:
Dark and I are friends off list yes, though we’ve never met, and it’s only a general friendship
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:54:00 PM
Smoke:
Ah I thought as much, cause he suggested it but I wasn’t clear on that.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:54:44 PM
Smoke:
Do you know if dark was or is friends with sam or walter?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:55:01 PM
lori duncan:
Sam treated me very harshly, but i continued to support stw because i liked the sounds and the fact that pvp was optional.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:55:29 PM
Smoke:
I would assume he isn’t friends with walter anymore…that is pretty clear, but was he before?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:55:31 PM
lori duncan:
not that i know of
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:55:45 PM
Edited, Smoke:
Was your only assumption for sam defending walter because they are friends?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:56:32 PM Edited by Smoke at Friday, October 12, 2018 10:56:37 PM
Smoke:
And if knowing they weren’t anymore at that time, does that change your feelings on it at all.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:56:57 PM
lori duncan:
yes, i knew walter had special rights on the game, and he continued to be an admin after all the hassel on the forrums, so it was obvious sam didn’t take
me seriously
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:57:47 PM
Smoke:
Well I was a part of it the whole time and I know for a fact walter wasn’t “friends” with Sam after that. that’s why I ask
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:58:26 PM
Smoke:
that’s fine though
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:58:32 PM
Smoke:
Did you get contacted about the issue from other forum mods?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:58:58 PM
Smoke:
or was it just Dark?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:59:03 PM
lori duncan:
pluss dark told me a couple of other girls came forward and said walter had been bullying them too
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:59:06 PM
lori duncan:
no, only dark, that’s who i contacted
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:59:23 PM
Smoke:
Do you think Dark would of made the same decision after seeing what Sam posted if you and him weren’t friends for so long?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:59:55 PM
lori duncan:
not sure, but if it meant people being bullied he’d have definatly banned them no matter what
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:00:44 PM
Edited, Smoke:
Well it was beyond bullying, you were saying walter was threatening to kill you. bullying happens every hour on the forums.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:01:04 PM Edited by Smoke at Friday, October 12, 2018 11:01:09 PM
lori duncan:
yes, he threatened me and my server, and i didn’t know what to do
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:02:41 PM
Smoke:
Now I just wanted to make sure on this whole thing.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:03:08 PM
Smoke:
You are holding to the fact that Sam edited and lied in his forum post with his logs and matching of computer IDs?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:03:29 PM
Smoke:
And that he did this because he is friends with walter, even though he has demoted real life friends for much less?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:03:54 PM
lori duncan:
I didn’t see what sam posted, all I know is he took against me for some reason, and what I posted to him was the truth, I had no reason to lie.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:04:56 PM
Smoke:
He posted the chat logs you sent him andd the messages you said that came from walter didn’t have time stamps on them, meaning they weren’t actual logs
but inserted by someone after the fact.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:05:51 PM
Smoke:
also that your computer ID matched the computer ID of the person who claimed walter was harrasing them after you said that wasn’t you.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:06:29 PM
lori duncan:
no, the ones I sent did have the time stamps on them, which anoyingly i can no longer prove now as they were on an old system which had a virus and crashed.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:07:06 PM
Smoke:
okay.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:07:19 PM
Smoke:
just one more thing
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:07:21 PM
Smoke:
In your personal opinion. If this wasn’t you or walter, but two other people completely, not friends with dark or sam or anyone. If someone said joe did
bad things, developer tom said no they didn’t here is the proof, would moderator fred ban joe? or would it be a wash and maybe some warnings given out
or something?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:08:40 PM
lori duncan:
I’d say if the evidence came from more than one source that he’d been bullying or threatening more than 1 person, then yes I would ban him.
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:09:35 PM
Smoke:
even if the developer’s proof showed that the person accusing had already lied about being someone else?
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:09:58 PM
Smoke:
I’m not getting how
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:10:05 PM
lori duncan:
yes
sent on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:10:07 PM
